Wave Without a Shore

Wave Without a Shore➹ [Read] ➵ Wave Without a Shore By C.J. Cherryh ➼ – Oaklandjobs.co.uk Freedom was an isolated planet, off the spaceways track and rarely visited by commercial spacers It wasn t that Freedom was inhospitable as planets go The problem was that outsiders tourists and trade Freedom was an isolated planet, off the spaceways track and rarely visited by commercial spacers It wasn t that Freedom was inhospitable as planets go The problem Wave Without Kindle - was that outsiders tourists and traders claimed the streets were crowded with mysterious characters in blue robes and with members of an alien speciesNative born humans, however, said that was not the case There were no such blue robes and no aliensSuch was the viewpoint of both Herrin the artist and Waden the autocrat until a crisis of planetary identity forced a life and death confrontation between the question of reality and the reality of the question. Tedious Too much of this reads like caffeinated philosophy undergrads in a mental pissing contest Wooden dialogue, static culture, evenstatic plot Last third involves fair story advancement and epiphany, but too little too late Stanislaw Lem did philosophical debate much better, and any other Cherryh book has better character development Look, I GET the point being made, but the book doesn t merit the cost of slogging through it Once and done. This book really reads best after becoming comfortable with the Alliance Union Universe I first read it many years back not realizing this I liked it then, but missed out on the back story that flesh this out Another suggestion I would make is to read Forty Thousand in Gehenna just prior to this one To me, and I would think to others, it will makeclear WHY Freedom was allowed to become the way it is For those that have already read Forty Thousand in Gehenna I will remind you view This book really reads best after becoming comfortable with the Alliance Union Universe I first read it many years back not realizing this I liked it then, but missed out on the back story that flesh this out Another suggestion I would make is to read Forty Thousand in Gehenna just prior to this one To me, and I would think to others, it will makeclear WHY Freedom was allowed to become the way it is For those that have already read Forty Thousand in Gehenna I will remind you view spoiler The colonies Union set up in this particular part of space were meant to be failures, so that when they would eventually be given up to the Alliance as Union leaders at that time expected to do eventually , the Alliance would have their hands full dealing with the problems Union sent them and then never made contact or offered assistance again They chose planets they thought would have problems establishing in a good way A mess designed to keep Alliance busy and to limit war between Union and Alliance I am pretty certain that Freedom was one of these colonies, due to its proximity to Gehenna I will admit, though, that I do not recall in the book any point where the characters claim knowledge of Union roots If some one does recall this, I would love a mail message and then will edit this spoiler hide spoiler A thought provoking experiment in objectifying the philosophical viewpoints of the main characters It s as if Cherryh asked, What if I wrote about a world where people actually tried to live by these philosophies I found plenty of food for thought when I view this book as an example and analysis hyperbolic, of course of how we distort objective reality when we interpret it to fit with our subjective belief frameworks Whew, that s a pretty heady sentence and I m no philosopher But, this sn A thought provoking experiment in objectifying the philosophical viewpoints of the main characters It s as if Cherryh asked, What if I wrote about a world where people actually tried to live by these philosophies I found plenty of food for thought when I view this book as an example and analysis hyperbolic, of course of how we distort objective reality when we interpret it to fit with our subjective belief frameworks Whew, that s a pretty heady sentence and I m no philosopher But, this snapshot of folks trying so hard to make reality fit their interpretive models resonated with me Captivating ideas, poignant prose Cherryh doesn t always blow my mind, but Wave Without a Shore does. Definitely picks up on the second half What starts as a somewhat pretentious philosophical diatribe becomes a thankfullygrounded exploration of a society wherein reality is seen as a purely subjective and enforcing weapon The worldbuilding is unique if not a bit shallow, but the short length makes this story worth the one afternoon it would take to complete. This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers To view it, click here The protagonist, Herrin, is such an arrogant, unlikable jerk that I didn t really care what happened to him, which made it difficult to stay invested in the story line, particularly the first 60% or so about the sculpture It picked up a bit after that, but I was disappointed that we never really learned anything about Keye or the alien civilisation other than just Sbi. Why I didn t finish this This was a terrible Cherryh to start with I just got nothing out of this. Not as good as her other Allaince Union books but still quite an interesting read. I thought this book was amazing and inspiring and wonderful It takes place on a distant world, but really it s a Utopia of conception with a race metaphor rolled up into it and it s just delightful It starts off with a character, Herrin Law, being selected by an academic as a smart person to be taken from his farm life to the Big City, called Kierkegaard, and trained up as an artist There, he meets Wade, who is set to become the most powerful man in the city The relationship between the two I thought this book was amazing and inspiring and wonderful It takes place on a distant world, but really it s a Utopia of conception with a race metaphor rolled up into it and it s just delightful It starts off with a character, Herrin Law, being selected by an academic as a smart person to be taken from his farm life to the Big City, called Kierkegaard, and trained up as an artist There, he meets Wade, who is set to become the most powerful man in the city The relationship between the two is a very conscious power play that is discussed at great length in conversations between them The Philosophical underpinnings are fairly explicit and make me wish I d taken better notes when reading Sophie s World The two major cities are Kierkegaard and Camus and there s an unexplored continent on the planet that s referred to as Hesse Now, I ve read some Camus, but I ve very consciously stayed away from Kierkegaard though I can t remember why and hence keep getting him confused with Kant But from the structure of the story, I have to draw the conclusion that Kierkegaard has something to do with sollipsism, because that s the main theme of the story The characters in the story, really every individual in the society, in this city, is trained and bred to be sollipsistic If they get into fights, their typical response is I reject your reality and Herrin, who becomes the Master Artist pretty much, is better at it and seems to go even farther with it than anyone else The problem is that there are aliens on this world, too, called the ahnit Something tells me this is a reference, too, but I m not sure to what Anyway, these people, who are described only in the vaguest terms, are so completely ignored by the citizens of Kierkegaard that they are able to pass through the city completely unnoticed, and if anyone does start to notice the ahnit IF THEY CAN READ THE FNORDS they are shunned by the rest of society, as though they ve committed a crime by giving in to the inevitability of the reality of outside worlds What LeGuin did for Communism in The Dispossessed Cherryh does for Nihilism, with an entire planet of people firmly in the grip of a philosophy taking it further than expected.The difference being, of course, that Nihilists are jerks.Heh Okay I over simplify But I did enjoy this book a lot couldn t put it down despite finding all the main characters for the first 2 3 to be really irritating It makes the climax and resolution all the sweeter, though.

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    Wave Without a Shore PDF Ð Wave Without Kindle - crisis of planetary identity forced a life and death confrontation between the question of reality and the reality of the question. Tedious Too much of this reads like caffeinated philosophy undergrads in a mental pissing contest Wooden dialogue, static culture, evenstatic plot Last third involves fair story advancement and epiphany, but too little too late Stanislaw Lem did philosophical debate much better, and any other Cherryh book has better character development Look, I GET the point being made, but the book doesn t merit the cost of slogging through it Once and done. This book really reads best after becoming comfortable with the Alliance Union Universe I first read it many years back not realizing this I liked it then, but missed out on the back story that flesh this out Another suggestion I would make is to read Forty Thousand in Gehenna just prior to this one To me, and I would think to others, it will makeclear WHY Freedom was allowed to become the way it is For those that have already read Forty Thousand in Gehenna I will remind you view This book really reads best after becoming comfortable with the Alliance Union Universe I first read it many years back not realizing this I liked it then, but missed out on the back story that flesh this out Another suggestion I would make is to read Forty Thousand in Gehenna just prior to this one To me, and I would think to others, it will makeclear WHY Freedom was allowed to become the way it is For those that have already read Forty Thousand in Gehenna I will remind you view spoiler The colonies Union set up in this particular part of space were meant to be failures, so that when they would eventually be given up to the Alliance as Union leaders at that time expected to do eventually , the Alliance would have their hands full dealing with the problems Union sent them and then never made contact or offered assistance again They chose planets they thought would have problems establishing in a good way A mess designed to keep Alliance busy and to limit war between Union and Alliance I am pretty certain that Freedom was one of these colonies, due to its proximity to Gehenna I will admit, though, that I do not recall in the book any point where the characters claim knowledge of Union roots If some one does recall this, I would love a mail message and then will edit this spoiler hide spoiler A thought provoking experiment in objectifying the philosophical viewpoints of the main characters It s as if Cherryh asked, What if I wrote about a world where people actually tried to live by these philosophies I found plenty of food for thought when I view this book as an example and analysis hyperbolic, of course of how we distort objective reality when we interpret it to fit with our subjective belief frameworks Whew, that s a pretty heady sentence and I m no philosopher But, this sn A thought provoking experiment in objectifying the philosophical viewpoints of the main characters It s as if Cherryh asked, What if I wrote about a world where people actually tried to live by these philosophies I found plenty of food for thought when I view this book as an example and analysis hyperbolic, of course of how we distort objective reality when we interpret it to fit with our subjective belief frameworks Whew, that s a pretty heady sentence and I m no philosopher But, this snapshot of folks trying so hard to make reality fit their interpretive models resonated with me Captivating ideas, poignant prose Cherryh doesn t always blow my mind, but Wave Without a Shore does. Definitely picks up on the second half What starts as a somewhat pretentious philosophical diatribe becomes a thankfullygrounded exploration of a society wherein reality is seen as a purely subjective and enforcing weapon The worldbuilding is unique if not a bit shallow, but the short length makes this story worth the one afternoon it would take to complete. This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers To view it, click here The protagonist, Herrin, is such an arrogant, unlikable jerk that I didn t really care what happened to him, which made it difficult to stay invested in the story line, particularly the first 60% or so about the sculpture It picked up a bit after that, but I was disappointed that we never really learned anything about Keye or the alien civilisation other than just Sbi. Why I didn t finish this This was a terrible Cherryh to start with I just got nothing out of this. Not as good as her other Allaince Union books but still quite an interesting read. I thought this book was amazing and inspiring and wonderful It takes place on a distant world, but really it s a Utopia of conception with a race metaphor rolled up into it and it s just delightful It starts off with a character, Herrin Law, being selected by an academic as a smart person to be taken from his farm life to the Big City, called Kierkegaard, and trained up as an artist There, he meets Wade, who is set to become the most powerful man in the city The relationship between the two I thought this book was amazing and inspiring and wonderful It takes place on a distant world, but really it s a Utopia of conception with a race metaphor rolled up into it and it s just delightful It starts off with a character, Herrin Law, being selected by an academic as a smart person to be taken from his farm life to the Big City, called Kierkegaard, and trained up as an artist There, he meets Wade, who is set to become the most powerful man in the city The relationship between the two is a very conscious power play that is discussed at great length in conversations between them The Philosophical underpinnings are fairly explicit and make me wish I d taken better notes when reading Sophie s World The two major cities are Kierkegaard and Camus and there s an unexplored continent on the planet that s referred to as Hesse Now, I ve read some Camus, but I ve very consciously stayed away from Kierkegaard though I can t remember why and hence keep getting him confused with Kant But from the structure of the story, I have to draw the conclusion that Kierkegaard has something to do with sollipsism, because that s the main theme of the story The characters in the story, really every individual in the society, in this city, is trained and bred to be sollipsistic If they get into fights, their typical response is I reject your reality and Herrin, who becomes the Master Artist pretty much, is better at it and seems to go even farther with it than anyone else The problem is that there are aliens on this world, too, called the ahnit Something tells me this is a reference, too, but I m not sure to what Anyway, these people, who are described only in the vaguest terms, are so completely ignored by the citizens of Kierkegaard that they are able to pass through the city completely unnoticed, and if anyone does start to notice the ahnit IF THEY CAN READ THE FNORDS they are shunned by the rest of society, as though they ve committed a crime by giving in to the inevitability of the reality of outside worlds What LeGuin did for Communism in The Dispossessed Cherryh does for Nihilism, with an entire planet of people firmly in the grip of a philosophy taking it further than expected.The difference being, of course, that Nihilists are jerks.Heh Okay I over simplify But I did enjoy this book a lot couldn t put it down despite finding all the main characters for the first 2 3 to be really irritating It makes the climax and resolution all the sweeter, though. 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  • Paperback
  • 176 pages
  • Wave Without a Shore
  • C.J. Cherryh
  • English
  • 16 July 2019
  • 0879979577